The birth of a child, of course, always is cause for celebration. And I'd venture to say that the birth of eight might even warrant eight times the celebration. But something about the doctors' glee that afternoon seemed a little... misplaced.
Then I thought about the woman who needs to bring these children home. After their tiny internal organs are fully formed, after they can all safely breathe on their own, after the doctors have moved on to other patients and gone home to their own families, one woman will be responsible for the care and maintenance of eight lives (not to mention her six other children, which includes an autistic son and a set of 2-year-old twins). When you consider the time, energy and resources it takes to care for even one child, the implications are staggering.
They got even more staggering when details about the woman in question, Nadia Suleman, began to emerge. She is 33, unemployed, single and living with her own parents. The circumstances under which she became pregnant with the octuplets are unclear. None of these factors paint a flattering picture of the octuplets' would-be home life.
Key in that home life are the octuplets' grandparents, Ed and Angela Suleman, who share a home with their now-famous daughter. Angela Suleman filed for bankruptcy last year and has said things that cast her daughter in an unflattering light. She has stated that she discouraged her daughter from having more children, and that she doesn't want her daughter to continue living with her when she and the octuplets leave the hospital. She's also said that her daughter was "obsessed" with having children, even as a teenager, and that a psychologist even suggested that Suleman throw her daughter out of the house.
Clearly, this is not the happy story it appeared to be, or that the doctors initially thought it would be. Beyond the ethics implications and the looming media circus (the octuplets' mother wants $2 million to tell her story on TV), there simmers an incredible family drama. Most of us raise children with the help of our partners, families, friends, babysitters and the occasional sing-along DVD. This woman will raise them with her seemingly reluctant mother and a father who reportedly is leaving the country to find work as a contractor to raise funds to support his 14 grandchildren. We're also betting there will be product donations from strangers and (Nadia's hoping) the millions she's seeking to tell her story.
Millions are important (and necessary) when you're raising 14 kids, but you have to wonder: How much are they really worth in the dead of night when eight babies are crying to be fed?
Laura Motta
Producer, Momtourage
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This story actually makes me tear up everytime I hear it. I cannot feel bad for the mom; she already had 6 kids and went for fertility help for more?!! Those babies.. those innocent, helpless babies. There is no way they will receive everything they need and want. I am not , of course , just speaking material things. I am speaking emotional and mental sides of motherhood. There are so many decent , stable couples out there that are dieing to have children and have not received their miracle(s). My heart and thoughts are with those children, all 14. I hope somewhere, somehow someone can step in and make it better for them.
And why is it in a troubling, hard situation comes to surface people in this country take it for millions?? What happened to us?
I say more power to her. She said on the today show that she will not be getting any goverment assistance and therefore I really don't think it's any of our business. I believe that she does care for these children and of course we all have our opinions but to think that the children will be neglected and not taking care of is crazy. The duggars have 18 and just because there's two parents, everyone's ok with it. She's a single mom and all of a sudden it's a problem. I think we are judge too judgemental in this country and sometimes we need to step back and try to look at it from another perspective besides our own!
I applaud her love for children, but she's being irresponsible. She's thinking more about herself, than about those children. I, myself, am a mother of two children with Autism, so there's two full-time jobs in themselves. She has a son with Autism, twins, now octuplets, plus six more children! She's a single mom, her father's leaving the country, which leaves only herself and her mother. With 14 lives to sustain, what does she think she's in for raising those children by herself, with very little money to go around? The next little while will be rough, feeding, burping, diapering, bathing, and cradling eight little ones, then still mothering six more children! She also should've thought long-term, like what kind of life/future will these children have, based on their circumstances. I'm sorry, this is where the mind has to do SOME work, and not let the heart do it all!
Was it just me or did anyone else think she looks kinda like a poor-man's Angelina Jolie? Not that that is even relevant anyway!
At some point, she'll get a television show and all will be fine for them, monetarilly speaking. While I can agree somewhat with Nicole's point of view regarding the Duggars having 18 children, it's my understanding that there are two incomes for that family, right? This woman doesn't even have a job and she filed bankruptcy last year! With the cost of fertility treatments amounting to nearly $50K, how the heck did she afford to pay for them, but not for her other bills? Seems to me that this woman is like the "cat lady" of children- hoarding them uncontrollably. I hope she realizes that although she's always dreamed of being a mom, the childrens' qualities of life will undoubtably suffer.
My thoughts are that she took the idea of motherhood to a fanatical obsession - these are not hobbies or talismans to collect, these are human lives. What happens to these children when this mother is so overly exhausted that she can't give them the proper care and oversight that that they deserve????
I second Ashley in saying that to want a child is such a miracle and that many who deserve them don't get to cherish the idea of parenthood.
I have no respect for this woman - she selfishly took the idea of motherhood out of her childhood fantastasies and manipulated her body to produce more than she can care for.
Yeah right?!?! The government WILL END UP having to pay for her - we will ultimately end up paying for this woman's entire family based on the fact that she wasn't level headed about the responsibilities of being a stable parent - with a stable income.
It is the height of irresponsibility to purposefully bring into the world mouths you cannot possibly, under any circumstances, feed. I would take pity on her if she didn't have 6 other kids and the multiple birth was accidental. But it wasn't. All 8 of those babies should be adopted out to families that are desperate for a child and can actually give it the resources and love that it requires.
There must be a greater plan out there that I don't quite yet understand... You can look under bridges and see homeless women with popped out bellies, drink or drugs in one hand, cigarette in the other...or unemployed and parent-dependent women with six young children easily having eight more babies just because she wants to (I don't mind that a single woman wants to be a mother)... This independent, recently widowed lady would have been thrilled to be blessed with even one child that easily would have been enormously loved and cared for...but it apparently wasn't meant to be. Life is funny sometimes..
These children need lots of love and attention. I cannot imagine how she is going to give them the love and attention each and every one of them deserves. Financially speaking, the costs must be enormous and yes millions are needed. I live in Belgium where a family is considered large if you have three or more children. But here, you receive a birth allowance and a child allowance until the child reaches the age of 18. And most of the daycare costs are tax deductible.There are belgian families here with 16 children who do are unemployed and our so called government is paying them these funds which are twice as what my husband and I both earn in a month (and we have good paying jobs according to Belgian standards). And some of them do have children just to receive these funds and NOT because they want them.
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I hope this woman doesn't move to Belgium
If it takes a village to raise a child, it must take a nation to raise fourteen.
I hope the donations pour in. The time for condemnation has now passed.
Totally irresponsible on both the mother and the medical team! Not sure who needs a shrink more. Who's going to pay the medical bills, be fiscally responsible? I hope she doesn't get a dime!!!!!
I think this woman needs to have her head examined. It is extremely irresponsible of her and her doctors to inplant this woman for anymore children when she already had six that the tax payers are paying for. One of my questions is if this woman is unemployed, single and with no visible means of support, how did she afford the infertility treatments? It has always been my understanding that this is an expensive procedure. Did the taxpayers pick up the tab for those services too? Personally I believe that the state child protective services should take all 8 babies and place them with couples who so desperately want a child. The babies would then have a decent chance at a good life. Something that this woman just isn't prepared to offer them. Children need so much more than just love. I pray that God watches over these little ones and keeps them close to him.
Well, she is kind of getting government assistance. Her parents are helping her out with the expenses - - her father is a highly paid contractor in Iraq - - one of those guys who's getting paid way more than the soldiers,. Considering billions of tax dollars are "missing' over there, and considering those are my tax dollars, then I say I'm helping take care of those kids.
Has anybody else noticed how much she seems to look like Angelina Jolie, who has said she wants 12 or 13 kids? I'm seeing some whacked out star envy thing going on here. I'm seeing a perfect Master's thesis for some lucky psychology student out there.
Is this what the Good Lord intended? To create a village under one household?
The fact that she was able to carry and deliver 8 considerably healthy babies makes me think that God has plans for those children. It's difficult for some to carry one.
In an interview she mentioned that while she was married she suffered several miscarriages. I know how badly I wanted a large family and was blessed with seven single births and suffered one miscarriage. If multiples had come my way, I would have leaped for joy.
Not everyone is the same. Lets not be to quick to judge. That's not are job. Lets just pray for the well-being of the mother and all of her children.
Absolutely irresponsible. This woman should be locked up in a psycho ward. To think that she knowingly went ahead with this without having a clue as to how to finance the next 21 years of these kids lives is reckless.
I can only hope that she might put them up for adoption so that parents that can not have children could provide a meanigful future for these babues.
Yank this girl's uterus
I'm a retired counselor and I was intrigued that this young woman thought earning a counseling degree would get her a job that could support her family. A masters degree in counseling will NOT give her an income that can support all those children. Her child care alone will take most of her income. The special needs she will probably be dealing with would stress out any parent. While watching her interview on Today, I thought she appeared to be detatched and unrealistic. With the apparent psychological problems she has, I question who would hire her to be a counselor.
Who do you think paid for her fertility treatments? That would be the taxpayers. Do you realize she already gets $500 a month in Food Stamps for the 6 children she already has, but according to her, that isn't really welfare. Get real. This woman will now make a living off her new litter of children and there is no mistake about it, we are the ones that will be paying. The woman as well as the doctor that treated her are grossly irresponsible people. There are so many people in this world that want and deserve children but can't conceive or pay the outrageous fees that are incurred while trying, yet this ridiculous woman now has 14 children. I am sorry if I sound harsh, but this woman disgusts me
This lady makes me sick! Just think...how many precious lives she has now trampled on and ruined - and for what, fame and money? What greed. The only reason she had these kids was because she couldn't handle the work and money load of the other 6 so she knew she'd have people knocking down her door with money and TV shows if she upped one on Jon and Kate...so she went and had 8! I feel sorry for all of her kids and her parents. She is NOT fit to be any sort of mother!
God did not give her any of the children. She did not have children for now-obvious reasons.
The doctor & staff who implanted any embryos and helped her have any more than one child are terribly wrong. And now it is time for their salaries to be sent directly to Child Services who needs to take all 14 children and put them in homes of responsible people. The doctor, baby-factory woman, and others now need to go to jail and work jobs there to pay for their own keep. They obviously cannot care for others.
Stop feeding her ego by talking to the press. No book deals, no movies, no tv shows. And get those others off the air which glorify stupidity. Reality TV. When reality television shows things which would occur in real life, then it would be worth airing. Fabricated junk should not be televised.
No wonder teens think they can just have a baby and get on with their teen-life.
Growing up: education, education, responsibility, then marriage and children. Having children is not a right, it is an honored privilege.
It is time for iVillage to stop glamorizing any stupidity. Including this one.
This woman is an absolute spoiled nut and you and I are going to support her kids from now till eternity. Why would any doctor inseminate a single woman with 6 kids and no husband. Maybe if the doctor's were made responsible for supporting these kids they would think twice before doing something like this again.
Ok I have twins, I am married, and my husband works. I can barely keep up with two babies, how can someone on there own take care of 8? I agree that the state needs to step in. In the interview she said she could barely afford to take care of the other 6 children she has. What about 8 more? Formula is expensive. For 2 I spend 300 a month. Easy. She is using the media to get things. The last mom of 8 got a free house, free daipers for life, free formula,, everything handed to her. I think thats what she is doing. That is so unresponcible. How can someone do that to those poor children? They will never get all the affection they need. Thats 14 kids in one lil house. I don't know how anyone can do it.
I think the woman is mentally ill. Since mental ilness can be heriditary, now we have 14 more potentially mentally ill people in this world-not to mention the other physical disabilities these children may be plagued with due to their premature births And to hope the "father" of these children may possibly becomed involved in their livesis a complete fairy tale The whole thing is almost criminal. Irresponsible at the very least. Should a depressed(this is a form of menatl illness) woman be allowed to be so out of control when ultimately these children could become wards of the state? The fertility doctor should come under some heavy scrutiny as well. The whole thing is abysmal.....
Duggers? Is that the name of the folks who think they are too good to pay their own bills for a family of 3, 4, 5? They have to parade to television and then have even more...it is way past time to stop putting these people on camera. It does not matter that there are two parents in that bunch, for they're as thoughtless as the 6 already and then one litter of 8. Should have read all the comments before posting. Now that I have, I won't be back to iVillage. Nor the Today show; and now Good Morning America is off the air at our house. As well as some night-time "news" programs.
We have children to love and raise in our home. They do homework, make their beds, sing in a choir, play soccer, shovel snow, pull weeds, ride bikes, are invited to visit grandparents for lunch, behave on the schoolbus, think about where they will go to college, and know that they are always responsible for their words and actions.
It's time to take our permanently ill one, 21, who will always live at home with us, to a doctor appointment which is hours away. And be back before the high-schooler comes home on the bus after the HS Key Club reads with elementary children--a Tuesday project.
Who will be taking 14 children, some of whom are handicapped, to their doctor appointments, and so forth? Grandma, who's already so tired she "can't see straight"?
And, yes, we had miscarriages here, too. Loss and Joy are elements of life. As are Faith and Reality, Responsibility and Fun.
I am a proud mom of twins,and an 8yr old. I think this particular situation is rediculous, but there is no reason that normal, mentaly healthy adults should not undergo fertility treatments in hopes of having a baby. I was blessed to have my children and would not change a thing.
I as a responsible person hard a really hard time raising the three children I had by my husband after our divorce. And it took a long time and a lot of thought to get the divorce as I knew it would be hard to raise the children on what I would make over the years. I made a decent living, but we only had the necessities. Love of children is not reason for having as many as you want.
There should absolutely be more of a way to have these people better informed as to the ramifications of the responsibility for that many lives...Is it fair to have these children especially in todays shaky environmentt??? Just the responsibility of seeing that they have the opportunty to get the proper education and the personal attention each child deserves is monumental...
By the way has it been a trend in Hollywood for women to have twins lately.Every time I hear of some actress being pregnant is almost always followed by expecting twins...
Could that many people come from a genetic background indicating twins? Just wondering...
Ummm... how about wow.!
I am not a mother and I don't even know if that role is in the cards for me. I see this story and I see many different mothers and thier stories. This woman is truly unique to most people's perseptions of parenthood. I know when this story comes up I will sit up and pay attention because it seems somtimes extremes are what it takes for people to see the curage in people. That jon and kate show never even attracted me, at least this single mom won't force the world to watch a couple bicker with one another! Her story may evolve into a beautiful one.
I believe that this young woman is more interested in fame than in family. How can anyone in their right mind with 6 children under the age of 8 have 8 embryos implanted in their uterus and then give birth to all 8? This young woman has had plastic surgery on her face -- why? In my opinion, her priorities are completely screwed up. It's obvious to me that the ones that are going to suffer are the children. How can one woman -- even if she has family and friends to help -- going to be able to give the love, care and affection that each one of those children will desperately need? Needless to say, these children are going to be receiving government aid for years to come. The doctor that agreed to implant all 8 embryos is also at fault. Ultimately, it is the responsibility of the parent to care for their children and she will not be able to handle it. I hope I eat my words, but I believe that the children are going to suffer for her vanity. She's getting the fame and notoriety she wanted by all the media attention. It makes me sick.
I think a line needs to be drawn to stop this. People should have to be screened financially and mentally to be able to have this many babies. A single mother with no job should not be allowed to have 14 babies. We have better things to spend our tax dollars on.
If anyone - single or married - is financially able to care for them then fine. But a single mother with no job? Is that fair to those children? Is that fair to the tax payer?
Because ultimately it will be the tax payer who is financially caring for those children.
This is not natural. Mess with Fertility and you get unnatural results. Life is to be celebrated and a new born is such a blessing. Growing up in a family of 8 (not multiples- My Mom got pregnant 8x and gave birth 8x...Yikes!) and being the 5th child I know what it feels like to be completely lost in the mix. Every child deserves full attention and love from their parents.
I don't feel it's right for parents to have more children when they are still raising toddlers so having multiples as a result of fertility drugs/assistance is irresponsible on the part of the Woman and the doctors involved. At the end of the day, for most families, assistance is given from outside parties including government help which already has it's own pressures. Stop messing with reproduction. If you cannot have your own children. Adopt. But do so responsibly where the child will receive full love and attention needed to live a healthy life.
i even resent the fact that the tv stations are giving her the time they are, esp nbc with all their reports and dateline special. if she wanted these kids she should not expect the money she is expecting. as a mother of 3 and a teacher for 28 years i really feel sorry for all these kids. there is no way these kids will get the kind of love and care that they need and that is the pity of the whole situation. and her other kids are really going to suffer too, especially the autistic one. the dr who did the invitra should be kicked out of the medical profession. this is surely an example of malpractise if ever there was one
How IRRESPONSIBLE of the mother and the doctor! Here is a single, no job or soure of income raising 14 children, some of which are special needs children. I have total respect for single moms and the ones that I know are the most responsible and hardworking people.
How selfish do you have to be to keep having children because you were an only child. Your mother raised you, she should not have to raise your 14. I really hope she did not do this for a book deal or movie rights. I hope she doesn't get a dime especially when people are losing their jobs and their homes. She says that she is not going to take public assistance but you know what, like someone else state, the government is going to be paying for those children but even more it is going to be the TAXPAYERS who will be paying for these children. She is not a victim here, it is those 14 children. The best thing for those children is adoption where they can have the quality of life they deserve. I think the mom needs counseling.
once again look to the celebrities...you think all these recent celebrity twin births are just coincidental? the trend appears to be using having a baby, especially multiple births, to draw attention to oneself. this woman naturally took it to extremes( and obviously doesn't have to resources to hire nannies etc) but she isn't the only irresponsible parent and sure isn't the most famous who is using her/their children for publicity
I sympathize with her loneliness during childhood, and always wanting siblings. However, babies and children need not only love and caring, they need financial sustenance, two parents, if at all possible, and a home of their own! The mother is living in a fantasy world to think that it will be easy to take care of 14 kids by herself. (Mind you her mother is exhausted mentally and physically from helping her with the first six, of which three have disabilities!) Also, it has just been disclosed that she does receive food stamps and SSI checks for three of the kids. This is assistance from the government no matter how she may look at it! I pray that she will try to work very hard to do what's best not only for her children, but her extended family. God bless her mother and father for being there for the kids. Finally, I wonder how she will feel ten years from now when the older kids are teenagers, and the babies are pre-teens!
I believe the state should step in immediately and force the mother to put them up for adoption. After all, this is not about the mother at this point but about the eight babies that need a nuturing, full time family. The mother obviously had them for all the wrong reasons and the children should not suffer because of it.
More power to the mother, obviously she loves children. I personally cannot imagine the pregnancy nor delivering 8 babies. My own personal pregnancy experience of a single birth was not something I thought I could endure a second time. Let alone the sleep depravation every mother experiences with a new born.
Personally, I gave all the love I had to offer to my one and only child. We still had issues during his teenage years. Together we have walked through it and are moving ahead towards more positive things.
It is so hard to say what is enough love and attention, for each individual that is different. There are many instances where kids, who come from loving supportive environments do not turn out any better than kids that didn't have the same advantages. I don't think it is right to make a judgement period. I can only speak for my life and my experiences.
I can't belive that she had that many kids I wonder what her stumouck must look like
I think that this woman was out of her mind. And I think someone should step in and take the children away from her. And make sure she doesn't do this again!
There's plenty of women that do this very thing, are on welfare, etc, but just don't have 14.
Two or twenty, it doesn't matter. Have only the amount of children you can take care of, not how many you can charge the US gov't for.
This was all a plan for her to get more money to take care of her and her family. Look at all of the money she is spending now: She has a P.R. person, and she and her mom are doing paid interviews! She is receiving public assistance, money from workman's compensation, and her mom is helping her! She says when she finishes school, she can take of these children. When?! She is not attending school now, so how are they going to taken care of now? When she finishes school, she needs to have a job, not only to pay for school loans, but also doctors and hospital bills and for the care of her children. Will one job be enough to do all of this?
This to me is just insane and inconsiderate of the children.
Everyone here has such good points!
I can't believe this has happened.....I am still in shock over this!
No sense in pointing fingers now...... I just can't see what good is going to come of this!!!
Look, we can all have our opinions about whether or not she has a right to have these children, or whether we should even be commenting on it, but the fact is this woman is mentally ill. What kind of parent has children because they're lonely or feel deprived of siblings. She has bestowed upon those children the burden of making HER life what she always wanted it to be. This is not just inconsiderate or selfish. It is criminal.This is not just about her actions, but about the right of these children to have a decent life. She's an adult and she's had her chance to make something of her life. She could have finished college, got a decent paying job, adopted or had invitro one at a time up to the amount that she could no longer care for and then stopped and spent the rest of her life enjoying watching her children grow in the love she lavished on them. Can you see that happening in THAT circus tent? Anyone who's raised kids in even the best of circumstances knows how much they have to GIVE and how much they have to give up.
I grew up in a big family. 8 kids. Mom AND Dad. No welfare, no food stamps (ha, they didn't HAVE food stamps then) When I married I told my husband I wanted 12 kids, because I had so much fun with my siblings as a kid. On my 20th birthday, I had twins. I quickly realized though it may be fun to BE one of a brood, it was another, to be the parent of a brood. I decided on tubal ligation. The doctor said I had to be 21. When I finally did have them tied after a third child, MY HUSBAND, had to sign a consent, agreeing with the procedure or the doctor would have refused to do it.
So I know they have discretion in what they'll do. Since she said she was impregnated with sperm from the same donor for all her children, the doctor HAD to know her history. He should be held accountable also.
I hope somebody steps in and does something for the childrens' sake. It's time to think about the children, and forget about her.
I believe that a woman has the right to do what she wants with her body, including having a large family. If she believes she can handle 14 kids during times of economic hardship then the only thing the rest of us can do is to wish her luck and pray that she can in fact live her dream of having a large family instead of passing judgement.
This woman reminds me of a saying I hear from one of my best friends all the time:
"If God brings you to it He will bring you through it."
This is total and utter IRRESPONSIBILITY!!!!!!! The state should take these kids from her. Her own mother said she was not happy about this situation and she went and did it anyway knowing the consequences. She is being SELFISH! And she's exploiting herself? This move was all about publicity and financial gain. There should be a law against this kind of an action. Then she has the nerve to bring God into this God ain't in this. God doesn't encourage having 14 babies out of WEDLOCK!!!! This woman is mental. I feel bad for her other 6 kids. And her mother needs to find her some assistance and kick her a** out otherwise her mother is just being an ENABLER!!!!. How are you gonna be unemployed and have 14 kids living in a 3 bedroom home AND not paying any rent?????? This has nothing to do with her "love" for children this has to do with her LOVE of self. Some deep rooted unresolved issues!! Her need for attention! Well she got what she wanted to the detriment of those children. And it's gonna backfire on her.
I am a mom to a 10 month old and one due in May. I am a stay at home mom while my husband goes to work. For one it can be hard because I am with her all day. When my husband comes home that is my time to relax and be by myself for an hour. Sometimes it can be very stressful. I don't understand why she wanted to have all those kids with no help and her mother not even really wanting to help her and now she is seeking money to tell her story when it should be free. The Duggards have 17 kids but they also have stability. She didn't need to have anymore kids. She was being very selfish and it is so sad because there are so many women who can't have kids on their own. The lady who said that the fact that she was able to carry all 8 kids and bring them into the world healthy and that God has a plan for them is very true. God also had a plan for me but in order for me to see it I had to go through a lot of hardships. All of her kids are special and if I had extra money laying around I would donate it to them. Pampers and milk are expensive. I know she said she wanted to breast feed but that is very time consuming for just 1. Now imagine 8!!! I pray that she will be able to care for all of her kids emotionally and financially. I wish her the best of luck but I want to know where the father of the other kids are.
Please do NOT donate anything to Nadya. Let Social Welfare take over all 14 of her children. To donate anything to Nadya is reward for bad behavior and judgement on her part and her fertility doctor's.
It is very clear that all Nadya was after was $$$ and her 15 minutes of fame. She prepared for it by going through cosmetic surgery to make her look like Angelina Jolie. She even has a publicist!!!
She is a selfish, egotistic looney!
IF this mother does not ask for government assistance, I am somewhat okay with this. It was her decision so it makes it her responsibility to own up to the funds needed. I would like to ask as to who is going to pay for any future hospital and medical care that the children may require? One kid with a disability -- and the school system receives aid -- that is government assistance --- making the cost of education to you and I higher. Glad I do not pay property taxes in that school district.
In this country all women have a right to have a baby however responsibility comes with motherhood. There are a lot of who would have loved to have more children, but because we knew these children would need the basics, education, security, in addition to our love, we only have what we can afford. How does this mother feel she will be able to support her large family? I really feel its unfair and unkind to the children.
GOD has his way of giving back what HE have taken"wars in the middle east".
It's wrong!!! All these people want is money. And how can you give that many children the attention they deserve. If they are different ages maybe but they all need attention. Why do you have kids???? For someone else to raise??? That is unfair to the children. This should be illegal!!!
Everyone on here is so quick to judge, when in the end, GOD is the one true judge!!! All of you that is against this must not believe in GOD!!! What is wrong with you people? The ones that say she is mentally ill sounds mentally ill because y'all just yapping and don't even know all the details. Y'all are just assuming. Each one of you should post a story about something in your lives and see how much you get criticized and judged, then see if you like it. I hope she doesn't care what the critics think. If she is mental then don't y'all think that if she was to read this that this will probable send her over the edge? Take her babies? How would some of you liked if someone suggested that child services stepped in and took your babies because someone think they should? Do any of you believe in the golden rule? Get a life people!!!!!
I think nobody should be condemning her. She wants her children. How many women have babies just to get welfare money. How many 'accidentally have 6, 8, 10 children most to different fathers and they don't really want them, they just like to receive the check. There is nothing wrong with wanting a large family. And although she had 6 she wanted one or two more. She didn't plan on 8 at once. If you listen to her story, she had had many eggs placed inside her before and NONE of them survived. The doctors, knew what her body normally did, so never expected all to survive. They did, so there must be a reason. She will love them all.
She did not have plastic surgery. Look at her ethnicity. Long dark hair and her facial structure and lips are nothing new. Listen to hHER story, the story above just repeats much of the misinformation that was put out before she told her story on MSNBC. She did not do this for money. Too many people are so selfish as to think one or two children is the perfect number. They can't wait for them to grow and leave the house so that they can get their lives back.
In medicine we practice informed consent, To have informed consent there are several things to consider. Is the information relayed to the person in such a manner that can understand what is to happen, is the person able to understand all the risks and consequences of the procedure, and can they comprehend all the implications. In this case I do not think the woman gave informed consent. She is a single mother of 6, and wanting more. I am a single mother of 4 and want them to be safe, warm, feed, educated. I work two jobs to do this.. and still spend time with my children, with 14 that will be hard. I do not think the doctors should have done this. If she can support then with out government help then go for it ! but can she??
My question is slightly different -- why isn't more of the multi-billion dollar fertility industry regulated and why is there so little background check, if you will of prospective parents using fertility treatments?
When we were done with the few fertility treatments we did (no one ever questioned us about anything) we were, by law, scrutinized under a microscope before we could even be considered as potential adoptive parents.
This isn't about government not wanting to poke it's nose into family issues -- it's about government getting a lot of money from fertility industry lobbyists.
http://punditmom1.blogspot.com/2009/02/suleman-octuplets-good-reason-to-look.html
The saddest part of this all is the children will not get the care,love and attention they need to grow and thrive. I have 4 children and sometimes we spend all night doing homework. There is now way anyone could handle this without an enormous amount of help. This is so heart breaking. Also you have to wonder about the Mother's mental health. What an unfortunate mess.
First of all, don't fertility doctors put more embryos into you because the chance of them all surviving are extremely rare?...was she going for twins or triplets and then found out that all the embryos that were implanted actually took?
If she had been married like the Duggans and their 18 children, most everyone would have been fine about it. Even if she were married and they both had good jobs, they still couldn't provide for that many children and also more than likely some organization would have stepped up to the plate and provided a big house for them and people to help feed them and clothe them, etc......So she is doing it as a single mom, and all she gets are death threats from people?....that is so wrong. More than likely, even if she were married, they would have to go on public assistance just to feed them and clothe them, anyway, so what is the difference...it's just a bigger job for her, and her Mom and Dad to have to bear.
The point is, it's happened...and for us to turn our backs on her, is the same as turning our backs and forgetting that there are innocent children involved. Also I don't think that being pregnant with 8 children was a walk in the park...have a little sympathy people. All those children are going to need help!
I do think that she loves the children she has. I do believe that all this about having extra children was to make money, big money. I am sorry that there are so many naive individuals commenting, but Dr. Phil was right on. She has mental problems and is not capable of looking after all these children. These children are little babies and definitely need care, lots of it, medical and loving care. They need a lot of providing for. The doctor that implanted the embryos should get a jail term. He was told by her mom and other family members, not to implant these embryos. I don't applaud her. I think the medical staff was so excited over being able to bring these babies into the world without losing any, that they were jubilant and so they should be. They are looking at it medically. They do not have to provide for them. Oh yes, she loves the children. But that is in one breath and in the next breath she is stating, "I am going to go to college and get a degree" well hello. She is not going to be caring for these children, they are going to be dragged up and I mean that. That is my opinion. God love the children, it is not their fault. But the mother is a case for a good psychiatrist.
How about making this Dr. responsible for the cost of raising these children. He knew the situation before he impregnated her. He his equally responsible for this situation. If these Dr. that are acting so irresponsible, were made to take responsibility for there actions, maybe they would think of some thing other than the fame and money they are going to make. He could have said NO to her. The poor childern are the ones who are going to pay for it the most.
THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE ARRESTED IMMEDIATELY AND CHARGED WITH CHILD ABUSE, FLEECING THE PUBLIC, FALSIFYING WELFARE, ETC. ETC. AMONG OTHER THINGS. SHE SHOULD BE SENT TO A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL FOR LIFE.
THOSE INNOCENT CHILDREN (ALL 14 OF THEM) SHOULD BE PLACED FOR ADOPTION (YES, SEPARATING THEM FOR THE SAKE OF THEIR LIVES) TO LOVING PARENTS WHO ARE HONEST AND SINCERE AND CAPABLE OF TAKING CARE OF THEM WITH THE THOUSANDS OF $ NECESSARY TO DO SO.
THE DOCTOR SHOULD HAVE HIS LICENSE REVOKED FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. ALL OF THIS, NOT WHAT IS NOW BEING PUBLICED, SHOULD BE PART OF AN EDUCATION FOR ADULTS AND CHILDREN.....LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD USE IT AS A DETERRENT.
She is wrong but I do need this question answer: who is this guy who giving her his "sperm"? how much money dose he have? somebody got to have a lot of money? will you guys look into ?
This woman never should have been allowed to have 8 more babies. She has no job, no husband and no way of supporting the 6 kids she already had much less 8 more. To me she is a very selfish person. She could have donated those embryos to ppl who really want children and who can afford to care for them. I saw a mention of " Move over Jon and Kate" and I was a bit put off with that. To compare that family with this woman is a slight towards the Gosselins. The Gosselins are a family who went the Invitro route as well but they had did not set out to have multiples on purpose. This woman went into knowing she was going to have at least 6 more. To me that is irresponsible and the doctor who performed the procedure should be the one to help support those kids. She did not have the money to do all those procedures on her own and her "disability" payments would not cover it. The taxpayers are the ones who will be , in all liklihood, paying for these kids. With 6 kids already , and 3 of which have their own disabilities, why would she want to bring 8 more into this world when the possibility of them haveing problems is high. Careless and I'm glad her mother spoke out against her decision and has left her to deal with 14 kids on her own. Hopefully her 15 minutes of fame burns out quickly and no one pays much attention to her as this is what she seems to crave.
This is such an irresponsible act. She is only out to get whatever she can for free. The website that is asking for donations. Did she not think beforehand of all the things these babies would need? And the Doctor should have his medical license pulled for his part. You know he had to know she had 6 other children, and I too wonder how she could afford the procedure. I work in the health insurance business, and I know most of our policies will not cover treatment for infertility. Most will cover the tests to determine and diagnose but does not cover the actual treatment. And for those that do, I have seen the claims and know how expensive it is. How could a single, unemployed mother of 6 afford it. Her parents have filed for bancruptcy so they didn't , couldn't and wouldn't help her. I am just glad I don't live in California, my taxes don't help pay for all this. I sure feel sorry for the babies though. To have a mother who only thinks of herself and what she can bilk out of the public.
People, especially DeeDee, it's not being judgmental. If you are a mother, or a father, you know what it takes to be a loving, caring, responsible parent. Why add another 1, or even 8, to a family of 6 children subsisting on welfare? Where is responsibility and accountability in having 8 more children on top of 6?
Just look at the long, manicured fingernails of Nadya!!! If you are a responsible caring protective Mother, you know that you cut your nails so you do not accidentally hurt, scratch, or cut your babies while cleaning and changing their diapers.
Being a mother of triplets people have always asked me will I be having any more. My response has been & will remain the same NO, because I do not want to be selfish. So when hearing of this story where she had 8 babies after already having 6 children, I stop to think she is being selfish. She should have stopped getting pregnant when she had those 6, or even before.
I can foresee multiple copycat incidents like this, simply because of the media circus it has attracted. Of course she knew it would make news. This was carefully planned and calculated and the media has played right into her hands. Pity the poor kids who have been used so ruthlessly. Shouldn't a mental evaluation of this woman be undertaken along with an evaluation of her living conditions and circumstances? I'm sure it's not rocket science to realize that the social services have a major case for removing these children from a home where their physical and emotional welfare is seriously compromised. Or are we going to wait until a mentally unstable woman, at frustration point, does something unspeakable to those kids and creates a different kind of news?
I watched a television interview and the woman struck me as detached, this wide empty smile, empty eyes. Talking of unconditonal love and wanting to be loved. And I felt really sad. Then of course this talk of going back to school and becoming a counselor which, given the empty eyes et.al, is fine and dandy except who is going to place their pain and confused heart in the hands of a one step from certified looney. And again this sadness. Because. The central question remains ... what was the invitro doctor thinking when he did this? Psychological testing, anyone???? Fourteen innocent little people, under the age of seven-years, cared for by a drained and exhausted grandmother and a 33-year old woman with issues. I skimmed over the comments and noted the naivety woven throughout the positive observations, comments that can best be described as pie in the sky, good ship lollipop stuff, observations that would go the way of the dodo bird if those same 'lets be positive' writers were faced with a night in a house with those little souls and the tired grandmother ... called a reality check ... a very very sad story.
First of all, it is a joy when a children comes into this world when you can afford to have one. But another when you have a procedure done and you have more than one (or two)at one time and can not afford it. I have five and survive. off of one check. Having 14 kids to raise and not have the income to do is, is really not only a financial burden, but a stress not only on you, but on the government its self. In todays economy, we have to live by what we make (which is not enough) and give more than what we can when tax time comes. So moms out there that want a big family, please do not make the same mistake that I did, by having kid after kid and not knowing where the money is going to come from when they are born.
I believe this person is stupid!!! She only did this to get her name on the news. The sad part is those poor beautiful babys will suffer from all this. What should happen is the children taken away from her until SHE finds a job and a house to take care of them herself, without anymore of the taxpayers money helping. As far as her looking like Angelina Jolie that is a joke, Angelina is actually pretty and a lot smarter than that.
there is no way anyone should bail this woman out she new what she was doing from the get go. When there are so many woman that try and try to have children and fail. Do to either age or medical reasons. Me as a single mother of 3 now 2 grown struggled everyday beintg single and also as she stated in one of her interviews she will need help to care for these children the why did she not think of this before she allowed this to happen. I feel that she is using her past as a poor piss ass excuse to have children u have to earn that right to be a mom not just give birth. That does not make u a good mom so why is she so selfish. Now that cps is involved maybe those children will get a good home from women that would give them the love and support they need not a freark show that is to soon await them is they are left in this womans care.
i hope she is a resposible mother.i have 2kids and i freak out sometimes thinking i am not giving enough attention and love to my kids, so i am not sure how will nadya manage.i hope she gets all the help and he children grow up to be good human beings.it would be a shame if they grow up to be criminals or jobless or worst educationless and emotionless. all my prayers for the kids and their mother.
First of all, she paid for her $105,00 costs for invitro with $160,000 she collected from disability payments. Instead of taking care of the 6 children she already couldn't afford! It looks to me like she used the remaining $55k to have her Angelina copy-cat surgery.
Second, since when is food stamps not government assistance?? We have all heard that she gets $500 per month in food stamps, so yes, she is receiving government assistance!
And, third, I hope her children are taken away from her. Someone this irresponsible does not deserve the right to raise these babies. She is delusional, and her mother is exhausted. Who, exactly, is going to change all those diapers, or comfort crying babies?? There is a waiting list a mile long to adopt healthy infants, I'm sure all of the parents waiting would jump at the chance to care properly for one of those unfortunate babies!
Now, she was offered a contract of $1 million to do a porn where she gets pregnant by 8 different men? This woman is insane!
I'm glad her publicist quit, and that her mother openly called her daughter 'Unconscionable'! I hope she really does kick her out of her house!
Even if somehow she gets her master's and gets a social worker job, how much could she possibly make? Even if it's something ridiculously inflated like $100k per year, she still couldn't afford to take care of herself plus 14 little ones.
If we approve of and support this behavior, we are sending the message that it is ok for women to have litters of children and then allow them to profit from them!
And the doctor that showed abominable judgment and actually performed the invitro, should be put in jail for child endangerment.
On her website she is looking for donations, I think someone should mail her adoption papers!